tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599994070177946721.post2756701598804884263..comments2023-08-26T08:35:59.375-04:00Comments on Incoming BYTES: Bone People: Are we just along for the Ride ?Raymond Alexander Kukkeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01347971987435644221noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599994070177946721.post-87017353758709372162013-01-18T16:42:27.232-05:002013-01-18T16:42:27.232-05:00Actually that or similar a suggestion was made, bu...Actually that or similar a suggestion was made, but the bone was found in a layer of consolidated rock-hard undisturbed clay hardpan over 2' deep that has never been cultivated at any time. (No cattle here) Thanks for your suggestion! Raymond Alexander Kukkeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01347971987435644221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599994070177946721.post-54076826243337107492013-01-12T17:08:25.904-05:002013-01-12T17:08:25.904-05:00It is the upper epiphysis of a juvenile mammalian ...It is the upper epiphysis of a juvenile mammalian tibia. In laymans terms the upper end of the shin bone. From its size I would suggest cattle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599994070177946721.post-47347240557730500672012-05-22T19:06:18.714-04:002012-05-22T19:06:18.714-04:00Hi Mike, that really is the question--I have yet t...Hi Mike, that really is the question--I have yet to see anyone that can say for sure what it is. It would be about that size if it was from a hog. The very rough flip side of the bone seems to negate the scapula or shoulder-bone concept, but certainly doesn't preclude it being a shoulder-bone of some weird animal either. <br />I also noted that the porosity is only visible in specific areas--I concluded that if the bone lost calcium, because it was so well protected with the clay-- the erosion would have been more uniform on all sides, would it not? The bone was perfectly enveloped in wet clay when discovered. Strange isn't it? If I do find out what it is, I will certainly post the answer!Thanks for commenting. ~RRaymond Alexander Kukkeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01347971987435644221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599994070177946721.post-69435537293483568702012-05-22T18:57:30.238-04:002012-05-22T18:57:30.238-04:00Thanks, Olivia! I have no idea what it is, all I k...Thanks, Olivia! I have no idea what it is, all I know is that when I found it I was totally surprised, like in the first photo, it was totally pink like the clay it was in. As it eventually dried out it lost that colour and returned closer to to 'normal bone colour'. I do hope you keep this post in mind --in case you run into a paleontologist or someone that knows exactly what this bone came from. Nice to see you drop in, Olivia! ":) ~RRaymond Alexander Kukkeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01347971987435644221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599994070177946721.post-24035441479507115722012-05-22T17:34:47.427-04:002012-05-22T17:34:47.427-04:00Looks like the shoulder bone of an animal. A pig m...Looks like the shoulder bone of an animal. A pig maybe? I can't see any gnaw marks or anything like that, so I'm assuming it either died of natural causes or was killed by a human. Two feet deep in clay, that could be up to 5000 years old in your neck of the woods. Old bones often lose calcium as it is dissolved by water and transferred away.Mike Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07720649974012888045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599994070177946721.post-24082795533493310942012-05-22T16:20:45.517-04:002012-05-22T16:20:45.517-04:00What a refreshing change...:) My first thought was...What a refreshing change...:) My first thought was that it is part of a hip bone or maybe the scapula of a very small animal..smooth areas as if once attached to muscles, acting as levers. maybe..this is what was left or part of a carcass that an "all too full" animal buried for later. I love anatomy & physiology and of course archaeology...a dig ..now that's a trip I would enjoy.. looking for the rest of those old bones LOL <br />Interesting blog as always Ray :)Oliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17451796437224378225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599994070177946721.post-3676171782173916892011-04-25T11:39:19.142-04:002011-04-25T11:39:19.142-04:00@ Glory, a Stegasaurus, hm....it could be a tiny S...@ Glory, a Stegasaurus, hm....it could be a tiny Stegasaurus, but no, I wouldn't be surprised if you're right,you being so smart! ":)<br />@Nadine, this is the conundrum, it can be from anything - and an Archosaurus is a good idea too. A scapula-type object, a bear(?) used in ceremonial rites and shamanistic incantations, that is a curious idea also. I will check out any and all possibilities. I have no reason to doubt, at least at this point, that phosphorous and potassium could leach out of a non-human bone into surrounding clay . The osteoporosis is quite extensive in this artifact. Thanks!Raymond Alexander Kukkeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01347971987435644221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599994070177946721.post-82707997681582632432011-04-24T22:03:18.123-04:002011-04-24T22:03:18.123-04:00Interesting bone! Thanks for sharing this! Happy E...Interesting bone! Thanks for sharing this! Happy Easter!...DanielPainting workshophttp://www.oilpaintingworkshop.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599994070177946721.post-46561263305890726752011-04-24T20:56:53.468-04:002011-04-24T20:56:53.468-04:00wooly is correct, and glory comes close..archosaur...wooly is correct, and glory comes close..archosaurus may be a relative..<br />my own guess comes closer to the recent past few thousand years, a toddler bear's scapula would have been used in ceremonial rites and shamanistic incantations you may check the local carver's patterns.<br />as for the perception of osteoporosis, i surmise that the red clay had leached phosphorus and boron from the calcium bone mass along the supraspinous fossa..<br /><br />in other words, it's fun to go down two feet and dig up a mystery bone..<br /><br />no predatory markings are evident so it's a human kill for sure. please display on mantel for others to play bone people or send to forensic dept at local univ and kiss it goodbye..as students use it to enchant their friends.nadine sellershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02101334796439082551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599994070177946721.post-14818298655027689572011-04-24T16:11:44.030-04:002011-04-24T16:11:44.030-04:00It's from a stegasaurus. That was the first th...It's from a stegasaurus. That was the first thought that came to me. Wouldn't you be surprised if I'm right? Well, so would I! LOLGlorygarden@msn.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05590509665833028919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599994070177946721.post-46820039693140838642011-04-24T11:13:03.401-04:002011-04-24T11:13:03.401-04:00Thank you for that suggestion, Julie ! One thing ...Thank you for that suggestion, Julie ! One thing I have noted, there are NO wear spots on this bone, and only the single protrusion. Thanks again!Raymond Alexander Kukkeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01347971987435644221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5599994070177946721.post-26281866451732091062011-04-23T18:29:06.450-04:002011-04-23T18:29:06.450-04:00What about a scapula? It's got notches too, bu...What about a scapula? It's got notches too, but this assumes parts have been worn down.<br />http://www.begin2dig.com/2010/06/amazing-engineering-that-is-shoulder.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com